I'll have part two of my response to Tom Liston of Raptors Republic up shortly, but in the meantime, Andres Alvarez - the currently blogless nomad of the Wages of Wins Network, and the man who created the automated WP site - has graciously offered some additional commentary on Reggie Evans.
Here's what Nerd Numbers has to say (with very slight editorial changes):
A common theme in Nuggets history (I'm a Nuggets fan) is to let good rebounders go and get very little back. A common theme in Raptors history is to have good players arrive who then underperform. In the case of Reggie Evans only half of that is true.
Player | Team | Pos | MP | WP48 | WP |
Jose Calderon | TOR | 1.0 | 2048 | 0.191 | 8.1 |
Amir Johnson | TOR | 4.0 | 1751 | 0.173 | 6.3 |
Ed Davis | TOR | 4.8 | 1298 | 0.187 | 5.1 |
Reggie Evans | TOR | 4.0 | 611 | 0.356 | 4.5 |
Joey Dorsey | TOR | 4.7 | 428 | 0.196 | 1.7 |
Julian Wright | TOR | 3.3 | 648 | 0.114 | 1.5 |
James Johnson | TOR | 3.1 | 418 | 0.155 | 1.3 |
Jerryd Bayless | TOR | 1.5 | 1023 | 0.059 | 1.3 |
Peja Stojakovic | TOR | 2.8 | 22 | 0.557 | 0.3 |
Jarrett Jack | TOR | 1.3 | 347 | 0.023 | 0.2 |
David Andersen | TOR | 5.0 | 150 | 0.040 | 0.1 |
Ronald Dupree | TOR | 3.1 | 13 | -0.114 | 0.0 |
Alexis Ajinca | TOR | 4.5 | 160 | -0.009 | 0.0 |
Marcus Banks | TOR | 1.0 | 22 | -0.160 | -0.1 |
Linas Kleiza | TOR | 2.5 | 1032 | -0.009 | -0.2 |
Sundiata Gaines | TOR | 1.5 | 89 | -0.106 | -0.2 |
Solomon Alabi | TOR | 5.0 | 40 | -0.332 | -0.3 |
Trey Johnson | TOR | 1.9 | 81 | -0.170 | -0.3 |
DeMar DeRozan | TOR | 2.7 | 2495 | -0.012 | -0.6 |
Leandro Barbosa | TOR | 1.5 | 1322 | -0.028 | -0.8 |
Sonny Weems | TOR | 2.5 | 1304 | -0.054 | -1.5 |
Andrea Bargnani | TOR | 4.8 | 2313 | -0.119 | -5.8 |
Table 1: Raptors Numbers for 2011 through March 28th
On a per minute basis, Reggie Evans is playing at a similar production level of some of the top players in the league. There are a few drawbacks. As Devin pointed out, he’s a one trick pony. What’s more is he’s older and has struggled with injury. I wouldn’t hang my hat on Reggie Evans to save the flailing Toronto Raptors, but I would be happy he’s helped out.
Tom Liston over at Raptors Republic looked at this from a few perspectives. Based just on wins and losses the Raptors are better with Reggie Evans, which the Wins Produced metric wholeheartedly agrees with. Tom also looked over what stats changed with Reggie Evans in the lineup vs. him out:
The Raptors: shoot a bit worse, have less assists and blocks while significantly outrebounding their opponents and holding them to a lower FG% with Evans in the lineup. However, it’s a bit of a mystery on why the team gets to the line 23% more when Evans is active.
Tom also brought up Adjusted +/-. Let me make this clear: this is not a good metric. Quoting Adjusted +/- to me goes over about as well as reading Tarot cards or the player’s horoscope to explain their performance. The basic idea behind Adjusted +/- is that you look at the player on and off the court (which it does), account for the impact of teammates (which it really doesn’t), and thus explain the player’s value (ditto). Luckily Tom even points out a good reason behind this (how about that Reggie starts and plays next to a black hole of a center?) So all in all I liked Tom’s analysis and thought I’d add to it with the Wins Produced metric. How have the Raptors done with and without Reggie Evans this season (by game)?
The cool news is that most of the players played better with Reggie than without. Here’s how it breaks down:
Reggie Evans helps the Raptors out by doing one thing well. He’s also old, injury prone and has an expiring contract. Without him, the Raptors have several talented Power Forwards just waiting for minutes in Amir Johnson, Ed Davis and Joey Dorsey. The Raptors would do well to retain these players and let Reggie Evans - and more importantly, Andrea Bargnani - leave.
-Dre
P.S.: Tom pointed out that Devin was very pessimistic about the trade for James Johnson. Johnson is young though and improved on the Raptors. A funny note (which I do not even pretend to be causal) is that Johnson played well above average with Reggie Evans and below average without him. As he’s played less than 500 minutes for Toronto this season I wouldn’t celebrate just yet, but I would play him at SF for now instead of DeRozan and Weems.
- Jose Calderon and Andrea Bargnani played better without Reggie, but the improvement was marginal.
- Bayless and Kleiza improved without Reggie, although they switched positions (which in their cases boosted their WP48).
- Davis and Dorsey are two young Power Forwards who improved without Evans. They also got more minutes with him out. Coincidentally, according to Devin, these are the two players who should not be put on the court at that same time as Evans.
-Dre
P.S.: Tom pointed out that Devin was very pessimistic about the trade for James Johnson. Johnson is young though and improved on the Raptors. A funny note (which I do not even pretend to be causal) is that Johnson played well above average with Reggie Evans and below average without him. As he’s played less than 500 minutes for Toronto this season I wouldn’t celebrate just yet, but I would play him at SF for now instead of DeRozan and Weems.
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